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	<title>Comments on: Thriller? Pt. 2</title>
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		<title>By: Britt Landry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Britt Landry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pastor Joel, I am a member of Bethany and I am a servant of God. I agree with you that hell should be preached and that people need to know about it. However, I DON&#039;T think that we should, nor do we have the right, to scare people into following Christ. As far as Michael Jackson is concerned, I do agree that unless he secretly gave his life to Christ, that he did in fact go to hell, but I don&#039;t think that preaching hell constantly is going to bring people to God. If anything, it&#039;s going to push them away from Him. I was pushed away because all I ever heard was that I&#039;m gonna go to hell if I don&#039;t get my act together. It took God bringing someone into my life that showed me the love of Christ and telling me that God loved me no matter what I did, to bring me back to Him. By the way, I am in no way, shape or form correcting you on what you said. I just wish that the messages focused on both sides of God; Hiswrath and His love. You are doing a great job, though. I thank God for you and I am praying for you and for a kidney to come in. Love ya.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pastor Joel, I am a member of Bethany and I am a servant of God. I agree with you that hell should be preached and that people need to know about it. However, I DON&#8217;T think that we should, nor do we have the right, to scare people into following Christ. As far as Michael Jackson is concerned, I do agree that unless he secretly gave his life to Christ, that he did in fact go to hell, but I don&#8217;t think that preaching hell constantly is going to bring people to God. If anything, it&#8217;s going to push them away from Him. I was pushed away because all I ever heard was that I&#8217;m gonna go to hell if I don&#8217;t get my act together. It took God bringing someone into my life that showed me the love of Christ and telling me that God loved me no matter what I did, to bring me back to Him. By the way, I am in no way, shape or form correcting you on what you said. I just wish that the messages focused on both sides of God; Hiswrath and His love. You are doing a great job, though. I thank God for you and I am praying for you and for a kidney to come in. Love ya.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Odom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Odom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 01:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to apologize for my response on the previous entry. I overlooked the &quot;not known by the world&quot; part at the beginning. I think Joel was simply making the point here that judging by appearances, based on the facts we think we have about this person&#039;s life, barring unknown circumstances, he&#039;s burning in the lake of fire. 

But can&#039;t this be said of anyone? When Jimmy Swaggart was enjoying the peak of his career didn&#039;t christendom see him as a righteous man? 

Here&#039;s an except from C.S. Lewis&#039; &quot;Mere Christianity&quot;

&quot;Some of us who seem quite nice people may, in fact, have made so little use of a good heredity and a good upbringing that we are really worse than those whom we regard as friends. Can we be quite certain how we should have behaved if we had been saddled with the psychological outfit, and then with the bad upbringing, and then with the power, say, of Himmler? That is why Christians are told not to judge. We see only the results which a man&#039;s choices make out of his raw material. But god does not judge him on the raw material at all, but on what he has done with it. Most of the man&#039;s psychological make-up is probably due to his body: when his body dies all that will fall off him, and the real central man, the thing that chose, that made the best or worst of this material, will stand naked. All sorts of nice things which we thought our own, but which were really due to good digestion, will fall off some of us: all sorts of nasty things which were due to complexes or bad health will fall off others. We shall then, for the first time, see every one as he really was. There will be surprises.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to apologize for my response on the previous entry. I overlooked the &#8220;not known by the world&#8221; part at the beginning. I think Joel was simply making the point here that judging by appearances, based on the facts we think we have about this person&#8217;s life, barring unknown circumstances, he&#8217;s burning in the lake of fire. </p>
<p>But can&#8217;t this be said of anyone? When Jimmy Swaggart was enjoying the peak of his career didn&#8217;t christendom see him as a righteous man? </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an except from C.S. Lewis&#8217; &#8220;Mere Christianity&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Some of us who seem quite nice people may, in fact, have made so little use of a good heredity and a good upbringing that we are really worse than those whom we regard as friends. Can we be quite certain how we should have behaved if we had been saddled with the psychological outfit, and then with the bad upbringing, and then with the power, say, of Himmler? That is why Christians are told not to judge. We see only the results which a man&#8217;s choices make out of his raw material. But god does not judge him on the raw material at all, but on what he has done with it. Most of the man&#8217;s psychological make-up is probably due to his body: when his body dies all that will fall off him, and the real central man, the thing that chose, that made the best or worst of this material, will stand naked. All sorts of nice things which we thought our own, but which were really due to good digestion, will fall off some of us: all sorts of nasty things which were due to complexes or bad health will fall off others. We shall then, for the first time, see every one as he really was. There will be surprises.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Angie Abed</title>
		<link>http://www.joelstockstill.com/2009/07/thriller-pt-2/comment-page-1/#comment-4286</link>
		<dc:creator>Angie Abed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 06:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate your boldness!  There&#039;s enough tolerance and political correctness out there; the world doesn&#039;t need another powerless bleeding heart.  It was CLEAR that you put a disclaimer on any assumption.  If the &quot;grace-mongers&quot; believe that telling the truth and warning the wicked is the same as judging, they would be well advised to close their MOUTHS and open the WORD before they make assumptions of their own...or to rebuke a leader for doing &amp; saying what he knows is right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate your boldness!  There&#8217;s enough tolerance and political correctness out there; the world doesn&#8217;t need another powerless bleeding heart.  It was CLEAR that you put a disclaimer on any assumption.  If the &#8220;grace-mongers&#8221; believe that telling the truth and warning the wicked is the same as judging, they would be well advised to close their MOUTHS and open the WORD before they make assumptions of their own&#8230;or to rebuke a leader for doing &amp; saying what he knows is right.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
		<link>http://www.joelstockstill.com/2009/07/thriller-pt-2/comment-page-1/#comment-4276</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 10:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow...really. This almost scares me. I&#039;ve sat under this ministry for nearly 2 years now and one of the things that I loved about it was the &quot;PASSION FOR GOD, COMPASSION FOR PEOPLE&quot; that was the the churches theme...What happend to it? We can sit here until our faces are as blue as this screen and dedate the ins and outs of his salvation but how many of us made an attempt to witness to him? Well... did u, I havent heard anyone say that they did. If u havent....then I think its best to keep ur comments as to where he is or isnt to urselves. It boggles my mind to think that this even being debated or discussed... but the sadest part of this is the reaction effect this will have on those who are not saved. To be honest, If I wasnt this type of ministry wouldn&#039;t be one that I would consider. Yes, M.J. has enterd eternity and will be judged by God and him alone but there is still a harvest out there. So, if u made an attempt to witness to M.J. then I thank God for you but if u havent lets make this an opportunity to work even harder to minister to others. Lets allow God to do his job sending M.J. to his eternal destination while we make every attempt to increase the number of those who along with ourselves who will here him say WELL DONE instead of just..WELL UR DONE. So with that being said, now 1...2....3....GO!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;really. This almost scares me. I&#8217;ve sat under this ministry for nearly 2 years now and one of the things that I loved about it was the &#8220;PASSION FOR GOD, COMPASSION FOR PEOPLE&#8221; that was the the churches theme&#8230;What happend to it? We can sit here until our faces are as blue as this screen and dedate the ins and outs of his salvation but how many of us made an attempt to witness to him? Well&#8230; did u, I havent heard anyone say that they did. If u havent&#8230;.then I think its best to keep ur comments as to where he is or isnt to urselves. It boggles my mind to think that this even being debated or discussed&#8230; but the sadest part of this is the reaction effect this will have on those who are not saved. To be honest, If I wasnt this type of ministry wouldn&#8217;t be one that I would consider. Yes, M.J. has enterd eternity and will be judged by God and him alone but there is still a harvest out there. So, if u made an attempt to witness to M.J. then I thank God for you but if u havent lets make this an opportunity to work even harder to minister to others. Lets allow God to do his job sending M.J. to his eternal destination while we make every attempt to increase the number of those who along with ourselves who will here him say WELL DONE instead of just..WELL UR DONE. So with that being said, now 1&#8230;2&#8230;.3&#8230;.GO!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs Kristie</title>
		<link>http://www.joelstockstill.com/2009/07/thriller-pt-2/comment-page-1/#comment-4267</link>
		<dc:creator>Mrs Kristie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 21:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Joel for your unwavering stand for the truth. If I want sweet, I go to the candy store! The word of God is sharper than any two edged sword, which means when it is cutting you, it doesn&#039;t feel good! Thank God for His grace and mercy and lovingkindness in dealing with us sinners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Joel for your unwavering stand for the truth. If I want sweet, I go to the candy store! The word of God is sharper than any two edged sword, which means when it is cutting you, it doesn&#8217;t feel good! Thank God for His grace and mercy and lovingkindness in dealing with us sinners.</p>
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		<title>By: karen</title>
		<link>http://www.joelstockstill.com/2009/07/thriller-pt-2/comment-page-1/#comment-4262</link>
		<dc:creator>karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PLEASE LETS ALL KNOW WE ARE NOT SUPPOSE TO BE AGAINST ONE ANOTHER. JESUS WASNT THAT WAY.... DONT GET ANGRY, GOD WILL JUDGE ALL AND HE KNOWS WHO HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM AND KNOWS THEIR SINS.  NOT US. I JUST FEEL FOR HIM IF HE DIDNT MAKE IT RIGHT WITH GOD AND HE JESUS DOES SAY LOOK  AT THEIR FRUIT... BUT I AM NOT GONNA JUDGE HIM. PEOPLE WE ALL NEED TO BE LIKE CHRIST...LOVING AND SHOWING COMPASSION FOR OTHERS.ESPICALLY IN TIME OF PAIN. NO NAME CALLING , REMEMBER HOW YOU WOULD FEEL IF SOMEONE DID THAT TO YOU , IF YOU LOST SOMEONE YOU WOULDNT WANT PEOPLE JUDGING THAT PERSON. LETS JUST ALL KNOW THAT JESUS IS THE ANSWER AND WE ARE TREAT OTHERS THE WAY HE WOULD. YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD JESUS DO?? BASICALLY. LOVE YOU ALL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PLEASE LETS ALL KNOW WE ARE NOT SUPPOSE TO BE AGAINST ONE ANOTHER. JESUS WASNT THAT WAY&#8230;. DONT GET ANGRY, GOD WILL JUDGE ALL AND HE KNOWS WHO HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM AND KNOWS THEIR SINS.  NOT US. I JUST FEEL FOR HIM IF HE DIDNT MAKE IT RIGHT WITH GOD AND HE JESUS DOES SAY LOOK  AT THEIR FRUIT&#8230; BUT I AM NOT GONNA JUDGE HIM. PEOPLE WE ALL NEED TO BE LIKE CHRIST&#8230;LOVING AND SHOWING COMPASSION FOR OTHERS.ESPICALLY IN TIME OF PAIN. NO NAME CALLING , REMEMBER HOW YOU WOULD FEEL IF SOMEONE DID THAT TO YOU , IF YOU LOST SOMEONE YOU WOULDNT WANT PEOPLE JUDGING THAT PERSON. LETS JUST ALL KNOW THAT JESUS IS THE ANSWER AND WE ARE TREAT OTHERS THE WAY HE WOULD. YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD JESUS DO?? BASICALLY. LOVE YOU ALL</p>
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		<title>By: Crystal Moreno</title>
		<link>http://www.joelstockstill.com/2009/07/thriller-pt-2/comment-page-1/#comment-4259</link>
		<dc:creator>Crystal Moreno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Pastor Joel..  I was at the unshakable conference &amp; received a powerful annointing.. cant wait for next year!!  umm.. i love how you preach! it&#039;s all about speaking the truth! it&#039;s funny how the world thinks MJ is in paradise and living in peace.  Now, im not judging him (because im no one to judge) but if you look at his life and how he lived...  ya, all the proof is their!  Well anyways..  May the Lord Bless You!!
                                                            Crystal   =]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Pastor Joel..  I was at the unshakable conference &amp; received a powerful annointing.. cant wait for next year!!  umm.. i love how you preach! it&#8217;s all about speaking the truth! it&#8217;s funny how the world thinks MJ is in paradise and living in peace.  Now, im not judging him (because im no one to judge) but if you look at his life and how he lived&#8230;  ya, all the proof is their!  Well anyways..  May the Lord Bless You!!<br />
                                                            Crystal   =]</p>
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		<title>By: alex stephens</title>
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		<dc:creator>alex stephens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for preaching the truth, not sugar coating it, and not worrying about who might find it offensive. Thanks so much again, may God continue to bless. I am looking forward to future posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for preaching the truth, not sugar coating it, and not worrying about who might find it offensive. Thanks so much again, may God continue to bless. I am looking forward to future posts.</p>
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		<title>By: Alaina W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alaina W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 17:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s RIGHT!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s RIGHT!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Renae Forrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renae Forrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 16:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speak the truth Pastor Joel! I actually heard that Michael Jackson became a muslim shortly before his death - therefore we know what he believed before he died.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speak the truth Pastor Joel! I actually heard that Michael Jackson became a muslim shortly before his death &#8211; therefore we know what he believed before he died.</p>
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